23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

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23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Andrick » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:03 am

Didn't a certain vepr tell the little reynard something similar, complete with an interactive demonstration?

Oh, goody. No whining, pleading, or whimpering. Brice has changed. Since Sam's currently got the curiosity bug, maybe we'll get another snippet of what happened by the river before the curtain falls on Brice.
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Jadugara » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:21 am

Mnnnnn....

And so it begins...

I'm wondering about that note just as much as Brice was... Was this something that had to do with Sam's presence? Did I miss something here?

Brice has changed indeed... To what extent will we get to understand how far these changes have taken him during the next few minutes of discussion, I wonder?... Sometimes living on borrowed time, after a near brush with death, really alters one's approach to life... Speaking from personal experience, I can vouch for the power of such events...

I'm assuming Sam never really knew Brice before all of this came to pass,...so any comparison between "now and then" has no meaning to him (as it might to us, as far as Brice's personality is concerned), so any real epiphany on Sam's end will come from whatever "reveal" manifests itself concerning that terrible encounter on the river's edge with Tony Ray...

This will be an enlightening few minutes, I'm betting, for everyone involved...

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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby neandernitz » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:47 pm

Yeah, that note is curious. I'm wondering; does Quetzlan code require odorant in the gas supply? If there's an issue with, well, anyone's in the building gas appliance, the next really loud noise you hear would be someone flipping a switch. Or answering a cel. Or a muzzle flash.

Just saying-- Wouldn't be the first time Bryce shagged death by the skin of his teeth.....


And maybe some other: Who's this "Hero"?
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Jadugara » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:43 pm

Brice is the hero Sam is talking about... The whole "hero" thing is referring to the fact that Sam more easily located Brice because his photo was published in a local newspaper after he saved someone's life.. Heroic act, but foolish to garner such publicity when you're on the run from hired killers...as Sam points out...
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Ramseys » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:36 pm

Nice flat top.
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby AMountainLion » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:47 pm

neandernitz wrote:Yeah, that note is curious. I'm wondering; does Quetzlan code require odorant in the gas supply? If there's an issue with, well, anyone's in the building gas appliance, the next really loud noise you hear would be someone flipping a switch. Or answering a cel. Or firing a weapon?

Just saying-- Wouldn't be the first time Bryce shagged death by the skin of his teeth.....


And maybe some other: Who's this "Hero"?


Think the note on the door about not able to find a gas leak was likely Sam's doing, so that Brice wouldn't get suspicious if the door was open. Just a guess.
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby neandernitz » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:35 pm

AMountainLion wrote:
neandernitz wrote:Yeah, that note is curious. I'm wondering; does Quetzlan code require odorant in the gas supply? If there's an issue with, well, anyone's in the building gas appliance, the next really loud noise you hear would be someone flipping a switch. Or answering a cel. Or firing a weapon?

Just saying-- Wouldn't be the first time Bryce shagged death by the skin of his teeth.....


And maybe some other: Who's this "Hero"?


Think the note on the door about not able to find a gas leak was likely Sam's doing, so that Brice wouldn't get suspicious if the door was open. Just a guess.


Perhaps, but why would he need to? He didn't break in, he very skillfully unlocked the door. If he closed the door and locked it, no one would have a hint he was waiting inside.......

We shall see what we shall see-- Wouldn't be the first time the story took an unexpected twist. :lol:
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Havoc » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:57 pm

Not a very sensible thing for Sam to say, since his life is nothing BUT lies.

Now we discover some things? Coolness, but somehow I suspect there will be as many questions raised as answered. That's one mark of a good story.
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Wotan » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:14 am

neandernitz wrote:
Perhaps, but why would he need to? He didn't break in, he very skillfully unlocked the door. If he closed the door and locked it, no one would have a hint he was waiting inside.......

We shall see what we shall see-- Wouldn't be the first time the story took an unexpected twist. :lol:



Keep in mind that SLOPizens would also communicate with scent much more than us weak-nosed humans would, so Sam was likely thinking of Brice picking up his scent, hence there's an excuse for someone (i.e. a repairman) to have been in the apartment.
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby littljohn » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:35 am

Well, I wonder why Sam is playing the amatuer. The pro punches the ticket posthaste and vacates. There's more here.....

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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Jadugara » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:04 am

littljohn wrote:Well, I wonder why Sam is playing the amatuer. The pro punches the ticket posthaste and vacates. There's more here.....

--lj


This may be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for Sam to get some answers he wasn't able to coax out of Tony-Ray, concerning what exactly happened with Brice by the river,....how on earth Brice got away,... and this will also allow Sam to gain a bit of insight into Tony's broken mind... Good info to have if he's still considering tempting Tony-Ray to work together with him again at some point... Knowing stuff that Brice could tell him just might save Sam's life in the future, just as it did with Brice...

By the way, as a humorous aside,...I'm obviously tired.... When I read your comment I saw it as.... "The pro punches the ticket prostate and vacates...." :shock: I had to read it several times before I realized it didn't say "prostate" (which painted a VERY different picture in my mind of what you thought Sam should do with Brice......heh!)

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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby neandernitz » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:18 pm

Jadugara wrote:
littljohn wrote:Well, I wonder why Sam is playing the amatuer. The pro punches the ticket posthaste and vacates. There's more here.....

--lj


By the way, as a humorous aside,...I'm obviously tired.... When I read your comment I saw it as.... "The pro punches the ticket prostate and vacates...." :shock: I had to read it several times before I realized it didn't say "prostate" (which painted a VERY different picture in my mind of what you thought Sam should do with Brice......heh!)

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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Ramseys » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:42 pm

Havoc wrote:Not a very sensible thing for Sam to say, since his life is nothing BUT lies.

Yea I was thinking that myself.
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby littljohn » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:18 am

Next time I see Jadugara, I'm gonna remain seated.

I'll also point out, the pro would use something quieter than that snubnose in an apartment building. Sam plans on taking Brice someplace else before closing him out. That little pistola is gonna make a hell of a bang.

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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Ramseys » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:09 am

Well Sam has been there for three hours.
Perhaps he's already heard gun fire and has noted the lack of response by the local LEO's.
And he also has other means at his disposal to terminate a pesky fox.
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Andrick » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:52 am

This talk of how a pro would do it... but this is Sam. Maybe this is how Sam has always operated, different from how we'd imagine a professional hitman going about his craft. A wetwork specialist isn't the end all and be all of Sam's existence. Intelligence was his specialty, according to the narrative, and information retrieval (for lack of a more polite word) was what eventually numbed the badger to the joys of the flesh. Professional killer is not the title on his business card.

Why would Sam pore over old newsprint, seek out old comrades, take a trip away from the home and life he built for him and his wife if not for an insatiable curiosity. If Sam just took "Rooter's" word for it, this little side-trip of his would have been done on the other side of the border. If the badger left the identified corpses alone to rot he wouldn't have had to leave home when he was still on the mend. No, the thoughts at the ephemeral edge of his consciousness kept bugging him, and bugging him, and bugging him.

Our esteemed author is showing us that Sam is more than just a remorseless killer, a fact that I had lost sight of just a few pages earlier in this story.
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Squid » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:03 am

I am not totally convinced that Brice's motives or involvement in that rescue are so innocent and of complete goodwill considering both his past proclivities with, shall we say, passive victims and that uncomfortable intimacy displayed while caressing her eyeball. It is like they are all dolls, playthings to him, glassy-eyed in their unseeing gaze. It all maybe some a strange take on voyeurism and exhibitionism. What better way to satisfy a need and fantasy of having an unwilling, drugged up participant than a comatose patient that he is so close to in so many ways? Who's to say all of those toys Sam found were being used by Brice on himself?
Besides, he is wearing the expression of a sullen little boy who has had his lollipop taken away rather than that of a martyr in extremis...
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Khy » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:43 am

Well, the doll bit certainly is a possibility. This is SLOP, after all.

I'm just hoping Brice might've cast aside his previous mannerisms and matured some. Strikes me as somewhat similar to a certain Singha, to be honest.
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby vopisca » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:15 pm

Did anyone else want to throttle Brice? Cause I did.
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Mulefoot » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:45 am

Khy wrote:Well, the doll bit certainly is a possibility. This is SLOP, after all.

I'm just hoping Brice might've cast aside his previous mannerisms and matured some. Strikes me as somewhat similar to a certain Singha, to be honest.


As the author, I can say for certain that Brice has grown a little since we last saw him. Is it enough to make a difference? Sam really isn't there to judge though, is he?
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby littljohn » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:45 am

Sam is doing the same thing Uthy was doing which got him into this mess to begin with - fuckin' around instead of takin' care of binniss. Baaaad juju.

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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Khy » Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:39 am

I was about to say... Sam seems awfully interested in those answers if he's willing to just throw away a quick, clean execution from surprise and the resulting clean slate...
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Squid » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:47 am

Mulefoot wrote:
Khy wrote:Well, the doll bit certainly is a possibility. This is SLOP, after all.

I'm just hoping Brice might've cast aside his previous mannerisms and matured some. Strikes me as somewhat similar to a certain Singha, to be honest.


As the author, I can say for certain that Brice has grown a little since we last saw him. Is it enough to make a difference? Sam really isn't there to judge though, is he?


I am verrrrry curious where this is going. Sam isn't there to play judge and jury, only executioner.
As for Brice, maybe he saw God and he looked like Tony...
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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Uncle » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:12 pm

Squid wrote:I am not totally convinced that Brice's motives or involvement in that rescue are so innocent and of complete goodwill


It like getting the honest answer from a convicted child killer/rapist.

"What were you thinking when you killed my daughter?"

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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby Jadugara » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:59 pm

neandernitz wrote:
Jadugara wrote:
littljohn wrote:Well, I wonder why Sam is playing the amatuer. The pro punches the ticket posthaste and vacates. There's more here.....

--lj


By the way, as a humorous aside,...I'm obviously tired.... When I read your comment I saw it as.... "The pro punches the ticket prostate and vacates...." :shock: I had to read it several times before I realized it didn't say "prostate" (which painted a VERY different picture in my mind of what you thought Sam should do with Brice......heh!)

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Would you like to talk to the therapist now? :lol:


Hah hah!!! I don't think there's a therapist in the world that could truly smooth out my wrinkles...

At least I'm harmless enough,...just highly imaginative....

All joking aside, though,...I'm really, REALLY looking forward to this next bit of dialogue we get to witness...

But unfortunately, part of me agrees with Vopisca,...without being able to actually hear the way he's saying his words, simply reading the dialogue for Brice makes me believe he still deserves a good smacking...

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Re: 23Feb12 "Don't dirty yourself further with lies."

Postby neandernitz » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:28 pm

At one point in my past, "someone" thought I would benefit from therapy. (Tho' not for reasons you might think.) The therapist became quite animated, and pronounced "If you don't WANT to change, I can't help you!" This from a batch of professional baby-eaters willing to argue that anything from a cigar to a semi-truck is a symbolic stand-in for stallion bits. So I made him happy by saying his ink blots looked like the Star Ship Enterprise, and he pronounced me cured.

I feel much better now.......

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